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Thank you!!
So I actually just plugged in a new modem, have been using it for about 30 minutes, and the connection seems to be better--see below. Could it just be that the modem, which was purchased in 2018, needs to be replaced?
Channel | Lock Status | Modulation | Channel ID | Freq. (MHz) | Pwr (dBmV) | SNR (dB) | Corrected | Uncorrected |
1 | Locked | QAM256 | 37 | 369.0 | 16.3 | 40.3 | 0 | 0 |
2 | Locked | QAM256 | 1 | 783.0 | 7.7 | 36.4 | 0 | 0 |
3 | Locked | QAM256 | 2 | 789.0 | 8.6 | 37.0 | 0 | 0 |
4 | Locked | QAM256 | 3 | 795.0 | 8.1 | 36.7 | 0 | 0 |
5 | Locked | QAM256 | 4 | 801.0 | 8.9 | 37.2 | 0 | 0 |
6 | Locked | QAM256 | 5 | 807.0 | 8.8 | 37.1 | 0 | 0 |
7 | Locked | QAM256 | 6 | 813.0 | 7.8 | 36.4 | 0 | 0 |
8 | Locked | QAM256 | 7 | 819.0 | 7.8 | 36.4 | 0 | 0 |
9 | Locked | QAM256 | 8 | 825.0 | 6.8 | 35.5 | 0 | 0 |
10 | Locked | QAM256 | 33 | 345.0 | 16.2 | 40.1 | 0 | 0 |
11 | Locked | QAM256 | 34 | 351.0 | 16.4 | 40.3 | 0 | 0 |
12 | Locked | QAM256 | 35 | 357.0 | 16.7 | 40.6 | 0 | 0 |
13 | Locked | QAM256 | 36 | 363.0 | 16.2 | 40.3 | 0 | 0 |
14 | Locked | QAM256 | 38 | 375.0 | 15.7 | 40.2 | 0 | 0 |
15 | Locked | QAM256 | 39 | 381.0 | 15.4 | 40.1 | 0 | 0 |
16 | Locked | QAM256 | 40 | 387.0 | 14.8 | 40.0 | 0 | 0 |
17 | Locked | QAM256 | 41 | 393.0 | 14.9 | 41.2 | 0 | 0 |
18 | Locked | QAM256 | 42 | 399.0 | 14.5 | 41.1 | 0 | 0 |
19 | Locked | QAM256 | 43 | 405.0 | 14.8 | 41.0 | 0 | 0 |
20 | Locked | QAM256 | 44 | 411.0 | 15.2 | 41.3 | 0 | 0 |
21 | Locked | QAM256 | 45 | 417.0 | 15.8 | 41.4 | 0 | 0 |
22 | Locked | QAM256 | 46 | 423.0 | 16.1 | 41.6 | 0 | 0 |
23 | Locked | QAM256 | 47 | 429.0 | 16.1 | 41.5 | 0 | 0 |
24 | Locked | QAM256 | 48 | 435.0 | 15.3 | 41.1 | 0 | 0 |
Total | 0 | 0 |
Those signals are still odd. I think the reason you're seeing different numbers is because the modem locked on to a different frequency band. Now you have 400/800 MHz channels instead of 800/900 like you did in your first post. The signals on the 400 MHz channels are too high and there's still a dropoff of almost 10 dBmV between the lowest frequency channel and the highest. Something is affecting the frequency response of the line, and based on the signals I would guess that there is at least one unnecessary amplifier in there along with possibly a high-cut filter or else just a defective cable or other defective part that is negatively affecting higher frequencies.
- wptlrn4 years agoNew Contributor II
Wow nice catch--the first Cox tech did install an amplifier.
But now my question is, if things seem to work well with this new modem, despite the less-than-ideal signals, do I need to worry? Could the underlying problem, whatever it is--unnecessary amplifier, defective cable, etc.--damage the modem, such I will eventually need to address it?
At a minimum, I will remove the amplifier and re-post the numbers. But to the extent it is in-house cabling issues, do you recommend I fix those, even if the new modem seems to work OK?
Thanks so much for your advice thus far.
- Dave94 years agoContributor III
Cable networks are inherently very fragile. You want everything as perfect as possible. So you want to remove any unnecessary add-ons and get everything you can control in the best possible shape. This isn't a unique problem to Cox. This is a problem for all cable internet networks. It's just a fragile technology.
16.8 dBmV is pretty high in terms of power but I don't think it's high enough to cause damage to the modem. But I would still remove the amp and test. Depending on the problem, removing the amp might cause problems with the 900 MHz channels. First get your indoor stuff as clean as possible then check signals and logs. If you still see issues, call for a tech. Also remember that less is more in the world of cable internet. Avoid any add-ons (amplifiers, attenuators, filters, etc.) unless absolutely necessary. The goal should be to fix it by taking things out, not by putting more things in. Sometimes an add-on is unavoidable but it's always best to try to avoid them.
- wptlrn4 years agoNew Contributor II
Well I removed the amplifier and now the signals look like this:
Channel Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Freq. (MHz) Pwr (dBmV) SNR (dB) Corrected Uncorrected 1 Locked QAM256 21 903.0 -15.7 30.5 88 406 2 Locked QAM256 37 369.0 0.2 40.5 0 0 3 Locked QAM256 13 855.0 -13.3 32.9 0 0 4 Locked QAM256 17 879.0 -13.7 32.4 0 0 5 Locked QAM256 18 885.0 -13.4 32.7 0 0 6 Locked QAM256 19 891.0 -14.1 32.0 0 0 7 Locked QAM256 20 897.0 -14.9 31.3 0 0 8 Locked QAM256 22 909.0 -16.5 29.7 138 379 9 Locked QAM256 23 915.0 -16.9 29.3 429 819 10 Locked QAM256 33 345.0 0.0 40.1 0 0 11 Locked QAM256 34 351.0 0.2 40.4 0 0 12 Locked QAM256 35 357.0 0.5 40.7 0 0 13 Locked QAM256 24 921.0 -17.7 28.6 3314 820 14 Locked QAM256 25 927.0 -17.9 28.3 8953 214 15 Locked QAM256 26 933.0 -18.3 28.1 17802 0 16 Locked QAM256 27 939.0 -18.3 26.9 694057 5868 17 Locked QAM256 28 945.0 -20.4 28.3 456370 80248 18 Locked QAM256 29 951.0 -20.3 29.0 831 0 19 Locked QAM256 30 957.0 -19.9 29.3 202 0 20 Locked QAM256 31 963.0 -20.4 28.8 1014 0 21 Locked QAM256 45 417.0 -0.5 41.7 0 0 22 Locked QAM256 32 969.0 -20.7 28.6 3063 0 23 Locked QAM256 47 429.0 -0.2 41.6 0 0 24 Locked QAM256 48 435.0 -0.8 41.6 0 0 Total 1186261 88754 - Dave94 years agoContributor III
Major problem with frequency response on that line. An amplifier is definitely not the fix. Your 900 MHz signals are way too low (-20) but 400 MHz are just about perfect (close to 0 which is considered ideal). There should not be that much dropoff in that range of frequencies. Have you replaced all interior cables with brand new high quality RG6 cables? Make sure there is no RG58 or RG59 cabling at all anywhere.
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