these were my email questions
"Can someone answer questions about the 24 tuner Ultimate DVR?
1. Does it store shows locally, to the cloud, or both?
2. Does it require Panoramic WIFI to store to the cloud? Can I get it without Panoramic WIFI to store locally
3. Is there a manual available on the hardware that I can download?
4. How much would my bill increase for an upgrade from 6 tuner DVR to 24 tuner?"
Here statement "Rental of a Cox Panoramic Wifi Gateway is not required for cloud DVR." I now find to be false. I was able to find out elsewhere that the 24 tuner DVR is cloud only and requires Panoramic WIFI to function.