Does MoCA work if we use our own modem?
Hello! I have been researching newer mesh networking systems for a few days now and think I've landed on the Asus XT12 or ET12. Currently I am using a Netgear CM1000 modem (1gb) and the Netgear XR50...
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In short; yes, it will work.
What Cox disables is the MoCA adapter inside the Panoramic gateway(modem/router combo), which you don't have. You would want to use two seperate MoCA adapters, 1 two-way splitter, 1 three-way splitter and a MoCA(AKA POE) filter at the demarc. See picture below as found here. That shows a system with 3 adapters while it sounds like you only need 2. One to connect to your router and one to connect to the AP/extender. The 3-way splitter would be the first splitter, splitting it between your phone modem, the 2nd adapter and the 2nd two-way splitter. The 2nd two way splitter would split it between your internet modem and 1st adapter. You could get away with 2 two-way splitters if you upgraded your phone modem to DOCSIS 3.1(TM3402) and used it for phone and internet. The TM3402 is a free lease that you only get from Cox. The MoCA filter protects your MoCA's privacy and keeps the signal from backfeeding into the Cox system. I hope that wasn't too confusing. Feel free to ask questions.
Thank you! That was more or less what I was hoping to hear... But yeah I'm confused a bit haha. The diagram shows a three way splitter on the main line into the house, and then that goes out to a MoCA and then the modem on one connection, and then off to the extender upstairs but directly via a line off the three way splitter? I must have misunderstood how this works as I thought you could use the coax that is already run through the walls into another room. So say start in the office with modem upstairs with one MoCA, then use the coax coming out of the wall in a bedroom downstairs into a MoCA and that into the access point. This diagram makes it look like I would need to run cable from upstairs to downstairs on a dedicated line. At that point why wouldn't I just use a really long patch cable? I thought it passed through the coax patch located on the outside of the house somehow. I don't know if I can realistically even run a cable all through the house between floors as I have kids and pets. Crap.
Also as I talk through this I remember seeing a Netgear CM2050V modem on Amazon that has voice? *Nvm that appears to be for Xfinity only. Shoot.
This diagram makes it look like I would need to run cable from upstairs to downstairs on a dedicated line.
Just a oversimplification of the picture. You can use the coaxial lines in the wall as long as the splitter connecting those outlets is MoCA compatible. How many active outlets do you have in your house and what connects them?
I thought it passed through the coax patch located on the outside of the house somehow.
What do you mean by "patch"? Perhaps pictures would help?
I remember seeing a Netgear CM2050V modem
NO! You can only get the phone modem from Cox as it is a free lease where the modem still belongs to Cox. As in you have to return it if you cancel service or you will get charged. Cox won't add customer purchased phone modems(AKA eMTA) to your account. The reason you may want to upgrade and use your phone modem for internet is to save having to split the signal to get to the phone modem and internet modem. For every split you can get rid of increases your signal strength. To see your signal strength go to 192.168.100.1 in a browser(user;admin password;password) or see here (page 15-16) for more info. It may or may not be a problem for you.
Im watching a video of someone setting up the MoCA connection and the coax lines they are working with all goes to i guess what i would call a patch panel (?) for coax inside their house? I could be wrong but i think my version of that is in a big grey box on the outside back of my house. Out in the elements. So that could be the end of my journey right there?
I don't know how many active coax lines i have in my house... When we moved in like 9 years Cox came out and ran a brand new line from the service pole outside up through the ceiling and into a bedroom where the modem/router reside. Almost every other room in the house has a coax drop including some along the outside of the house on the deck but its older and i've never used any of it as we only use the internet that stems from our office.
Ok i getcha on the phone modem thing, sorry :)
what i would call a patch panel
A patch panel is typically used in apartment complexes to connect lots of apartments to coaxial. I think what you are talking about is called a "house box" or enclosure. If nothing else it should have the electrical ground connector but maybe a splitter too. Try opening it up and see what is inside. If it is complex, take a picture. You need to find out how the coaxial outlets in your house are connected. Even if they aren't connected to Cox you can still use them for MoCA. That actually makes it easier since you don't have to add the MoCA filter. Hopefully the wiring is RG6 atleast and quad shield at best. If this is all too complex for you, you can hire a low voltage electrician to work it out. You would just need to buy the hardware.
