COX Rated WORST - No surprise there.
Consumer Reports released the results of their survey of telecommunication services. No surprise that COX is in the WORST category no matter whether you look at the "Phne TV Internet Bundles", "Internet Providers", "TV Services" categories. In the "Value" category COX is always the lowest score, and in "Customer Service", the second lowest score possible. Where "reliability" was a rating factor, COX scored the median or "average" value. Same with "speed". Why can a company with record (and increasing) profits sustain such growth with mediocre to poor services? UNREGULATED GOVERNMENT GRANTED MONOPOLIES! As in CA where COX hip-pocket politicians in the state legislature approved a carve up of the state into monopoly zones for telecom services among COX, COMCAST and XFINITY. This allowed COX for the longest time to keep its hip-pocket county commisioners from issuing construction permits to Verizon (local landline phone provider) to update their copper line to fiber which caused Verizon to abandon their services in my area to Frontier, a Chinese company that, because of Chinese law, has to make all communications on its networks available to Chinese military and industrial "intelligence" services without any type of legal review or check and balance. Why the Chinese interest in this area? It is fairly dense with high-tech companies with leading edge tech in medical, aerospace, military and civilian telecom, power generation and distribution technologies, the very areas Chinese spying has been penetrating and stealing for decades. FINALLY (probably due to anti-American Trumpists in the telecom regulating agencies from Fed to state level) Frontier was able to break the COX stranglehold on the permitting process and has just started to upgrade the local copper network to fiber, and in limited neighborhoods, offer high-speed internet via fiber. COX current response in an advertising campaign specifically calling out Frontier on speed based on their historical DSL service in order to be sure no one notices that they are transitioning to Fiber. In addition COX falsely claims a 99%+ up-time/reliability that I have not experienced EVER in Cox internet service, and in their TV service since the early 2000's. To bleed as much money out of existing customers before they discover there may be a more reliable and cost-effective option, COX has increased its customer abuse tactics. For example, charging for streaming services that are only available with a DVR-enable Cox receiver, while they KNOW you are only provisioned with (and charged for) non-DVR capable receiver (and stating when, called on the fact that their Web site says YOUR receiver IS capable of receiving the streaming service - i.e. HBOMax - that you need to upgrade to the DVR capable box at an addition $10 - 15 per month in order to use the service you are being billed for!). Another example: Initially signed up for the lowest internet speed package (at the time 100 mbps) when Verizon disabled my DSL by wiring in a new office complex between my home office and the switch so that the wire run to my house put me outside the DSL capable distance for their copper network. Subsequently I got (and saved) emails from COX telling me how I was getting a "free speed upgrade" to my existing internet service. Of course, these never appeared - at least not according to Ookla Speed Test. What did appear over time was a doubling then tripling of the "Ping" time over my DSL service which I believe is COX's interception of internet/website requests for purposes of privacy violating profiling and corporate throttling "for fun and profit" from data miners and corporations that want "priority" access to COX users. Then to rub salt into thw wounds, COX eliminated the 100 and 150 Mbps tiers, automatically "upgraded" those users to 250 mbps with an overall 40%+ fee increase, BUT NEVER UPGRADED THE ACTUAL SPEED OF THE CONNECTION!!! When contacted, they tried to tell my wife (take advantage of an ignorant woman, they thought - except she shares the same software engineering creds as I have) that in order to get these new speeds we would have to upgrade our equipment to COX "panoramic" (mesh) WiFi, which is total BS especially for a home with one computer wired to the router, and one light-use tablet connected to the internet VERY SPORADICALLY throughout any given day. (No social media accounts, little to no looking at videos, mostly email, some shopping, and some info research for non-digital hobbies.) When challenged, the excuse became, "well your modem is too old - you need to upgrade it". I've been using my own Netgear DOCSIS 3.0 modem since the beginning with COX, and the only problem is their frequent outages that sometimes the own up to as "maintenance" and other times as "outage in your area" always with the same predicted fix time of 6:00 am the next day. Despite knowing this was total BS on COX's part, I went to their web site and found a modem they claimed was DOCSIS 3.1 and compatible with their service. I purchased the modem from BestBuy, but when following the modem manufacturer's instructions for COX activation via COX web site, it failed (waited on activation to complete for several hours and gave up). I then called COX tech support number listed for Internet service activation, provided the tech with the MAC etc. and while waiting for the activation which he could not do, he tried to set up a "service call" by a tech with a replacement modem since the one I had could not be activated (despite all status indicators being normal). I told him that the modem was purchased from BestBuy and then he told me "UNLESS THE MODEM IS SUPPLIED BY COX IT WILL NOT WORK WITH COX INTERNET SERVICE". So, once again COX web site falsely advertises available services for specific hardware models! AND THEY GET AWAY WITH IT BECAUSE THEY ARE AN UNREGULATED MONOPOLY TELECOM PROVIDER!! AND THE KNOWINGLY CONTINUE TO MAKE FALSE CLAIMS AND "SERVICE ADJUSTMENTS" SOLELY TO INCREASE PROFITS WITHOUT IMPROVEMENTS TO QUALITY, QUANTITY OF SERVICE OR "CUSTOMER CARE". That's why, when talking to anyone about my telecom services I say, "COX - say it out loud - that's what you have to deal with - a bunch of....!1.8KViews4likes3CommentsInternet Has Been Out for Days, Yet Cox Tells Me I'm the Problem
I'd like to find out if anyone else has had an experience with Cox as terrible as my recent experience in Oklahoma City, OK: My home internet has been out for 3 or 4 days now. It started when our modem suddenly stopped getting any signal from Cox. The modem has power and has shown zero issues up to this point. I thought maybe it was that particular coaxial connection, so I tried hooking the modem up in other rooms around the house that that have a connection available. Same issue: modem powers on, but no connection to Cox. I then got on the Cox website to verify that my modems MAC and Serial Numbers were correct, as well as to try and reset my modem from my online account settings. Still no improvement. So, I decided tochat with a Cox support agent. The FIRST agent I talked to looked into all kinds of things and ended up telling me that I needed a new modem (which, of course they immediately started trying to sell me one of theirs). I said no thanks, went to the store, and bought a new modem. The new modem is the exact same brand and model (Netgear CM500) as the previous modem I'd been using for years with Cox, so I know for a fact it is compatible. I get home, I hookup the new modem, but still no connection to Cox. I try to activate the modem according to both the manufacturers instructions and the instructions on the Cox website, but I can't finish it myself because, of course, Cox can't establish a connection to the modem! So, I decide tochat with a Cox support agent AGAIN. The SECOND agent has me provide the MAC and Serial Number of the new modem so that they can activate it on my account for me. I provide them all of this information, and they tell me that they have activated the modem on their end, but that they still can't establish a connection to the new modem. Then, all of a sudden, the chat session ends before I can get anything else from them. Big help that was, Cox! Once again, I reach out to a Cox support agent. I tell the THIRD agent everything that's happened up to this point, about the sudden disconnection on my old modem, going out and buying a new modem, going through the headache of getting the new modem activated, and getting disconnected from the previous agent. This agent wants all the MAC and Serial Number information again so they can make sure the modem is activated. I provide all the information to them, they tell me the modem is activated "on their end", and that I need to reset the modem (unplug it, wait 10 seconds, plug back in). Then they tell me to "wait a while", I'm assuming so that Cox can try to connect to the modem. After about 10 or 15 minutes of waiting, and still no connection, this agent tells me that it's a problem with my modem. UM, EXCUSE ME? You mean, this brand new modem that the FIRST agent told me to go buy for absolutely no reason? Not likely. At this point I told the third agent that I'd like a technician to come out to my house and check the Cox lines outside because the only remaining possibility is that there's an issue with their equipment. The third agent then told me that they can't send a technician to my house because they're not allowed to touch equipment that's not provided by Cox (in reference to the modem). I tell them that's fine, because I'm not asking them to touch my modem, I want them to check up on their own equipment! The agent then goes back to insisting that the issue is with my brand new equipment. Well, of course it is, because Cox is just infallible, right?! At this point, I'm ready to drop Cox all together. I've never had such a poor customer service experience in my life. I worked in customer service for a number of years, and it never once occurred to me to tell a customer "it's not us, it's you" if I hadn't already exhausted every possibility on our end first. It's a shame too, because this is really the first issue I've ever had with Cox. At this point, the hot spot on my T-Mobile phone isproviding a more reliable connection for my home than Cox seems able to. In the meantime, I've talked with co-workers who live in nearby cities who've told me that their Cox service has been out for the exact same amount of time, with the exact same symptoms (modem suddenly receives no signal), who've been told the exact same thing by customer service agents (go buy a new modem), then been treated the exact same way after the recommendation doesn't work ("it's not us, it's you"). Is anyone else starting to see a pattern here?1.4KViews4likes5CommentsYou're Not Crazy It's Happening To Everyone
I can't read one more. I can't read one more post that says, "my modem drops dozens of times a day, and comes back up minutes later, sometimes it's unusable for HOURS, I've rebooted, and reset, and refreshed, and I've replaced ALL of my equipment, I've called Cox dozens of times, techs have visited my house over and over, and it's STILL HAPPENING, EVERY DAY." It's not a user-end issue, and I can't believe that with ALL OF THESE IDENTICAL REPORTS (and you can add mine - identical), that Cox is just plum mystified (and always, EXTREMELY RETICENT TO ISSUE ANY KIND OF CREDIT FOR THEIR BREACH OF CONTRACT). It's too much. That's enough. The Federal Communications Commission is there to protect consumers from this fraud and abuse, and by God, I'll be calling on them to do so. Investigative journalists live to expose greed and corruption, and the lack of antitrust measures governing utilities like Cox is fertilizer for the kind of stink Cox gives you for hundreds of dollars a month. So anyway, does anyone have any suggestions, he asked rhetorically. (incidentally, the sheer VOLUME of tags, crowd-sourced, shows where the stakeholders are:)2.3KViews4likes3Comments"Increased internet traffic" and "Network impacting event"
How would Cox react if I sent a note to their payment center stating that I had "Increased banking traffic" that created a "budget-impacting event", therefore making it impossible to pay my bill? Well, we all know, they'd turn OFF my service at a minimum. I wish I could "turn off" Cox by firing them, and choosing another broadband service, but there are no other choices where I live.2.8KViews4likes3Comments"Network-Impacting Event" In San Diego
Do we have any idea what this is? Why will it takes days to fix? Our internet has been up and down for the last 3 days and now it seems we can expect more of the same until 9/27/2022 at 12:02 AM?? I think we need a better explanation.Solved2KViews4likes11CommentsWorst experiences ever
Over the last couple days I've spoken to agents online and on the phone, both were completely incompetent. I explained that I pay for gigablast but am only getting 110-140mbps and have already factory reset the modem, refreshed the signal, unplugged it, all the basics as I am in IT myself and more technical than most Cox agents I've ever interacted with. They then wanted to reset it again and still no improvement. They proceeded to schedule a tech visit which turned out to be 3 techs from a subcontracted company I've never heard of and after 2 hours, a new modem, changing my wifi password, and unplugging my Ethernet switcher had only managed to decrease my speeds further. They tried claiming that cox has never pushed 1000down and basically called me a liar when I mentioned I had when it was first installed. I finally showed them speedtest screenshots and all they did was start blaming my computer, ethernet cable, modem's placement, anything they could think of. My computer is a top of the line beast by the way so that was out of the question. They finally left with no clear answer or explanation so since then I've tried calling in for the last 2 hours and either get transferred, hung up on, or they lie and say they can't hear me. When I do get someone who actually talks, all they do is read from a script and ignore anything I say. I say the modem is brand new and the techs just left yet they want to start the whole rigmarole of resetting and refreshing the signal. I tell them the light is steady white and am immediately asked to let them know when the lights stop flashing...I tell them techs were just here and replaced the modem and the reply is "I'll send a tech out but if it's due to damage you caused the modem you will pay $75" Each agent (5+) I've spoken to would not discuss any credits to my bill or reimbursement for receiving a fraction of the speed I pay for. Finally I ask for a manager and am transferred to be greeted by a machine saying you're closed. This has by far been the worst customer experience I've ever encountered.6.8KViews3likes13CommentsConstant outages
What is going on with the massive insatiability? The last month each day is a dice roll to see if I get working internet, half working internet, or no internet. Cox is really undermining the "I pay for internet, use internet to make money, pay them for more internet" arrangement. Sooner or later the situation will be insolvent. And the constant "updates" which are just lies at this point, every couple of hours its gonna be a couple more hours.959Views3likes16CommentsIs there any way to get the service i pay for?
I'm generally a tolerant person. I'm not one to complain about a service or meal unless its absolutely horrendous. Yet here i am, so you know where this is going. We recently moved to Phoenix AZ from Kansas City MO where we thoroughly enjoyed our Google Fiber internet service (gigabit up, gigabit down, Unlimited data, $70 a month) We had it go down about once in 5 years. Night and day better than your service in every way, probably why you lobbied to keep Google out of Phoenix, but I digress. Now we have Cox, because that's our only option. To say we are completely frustrated and angry is a severe understatement. At first it was annoying how much more we had to pay for worse service. Gigablast, plus having to pay for unlimited data means a cool $179.00 a month, and only a 30mb upload speed compared to the gigabit we had. But hey, at least it was mostly pretty stable. Until this June. Since then its down nearly every day, often multiple times a day. What is going on? I pay 179 a month and for the past 2 months its down ALL THE TIME. 5 times a week, at a minimum. When it is working, we often get .5mb upload speeds. This is completely unacceptable. No bill credits for the horrible service, no discounts. Just horrible service with no apologies. Funny how if i don't pay my bill ill get a late fee, but you dont have to pay a fee when you don't provide the service you are supposed to. I get that you guys have a monopoly and really don't care, but PLEASE at least fix your service so it functions reliably. Not only am i having to pay outrageous sums every month for sub par service, but as i work from home, you are literally costing me money. I've tried calling, I cant ever get ahold of anyone who will help or cares, at best they kick me to chat service with someone in Bangladesh. In fact, right now I'm hot-spotting my phone just so I can log into your forums to tell you how bad your service is and plead with you to do SOMETHING about it. I'm fully aware you don't care, I'm fully aware you probably wont help me either. I have no choice but to pay you for your horrible service if i want internet at my house. But hey, at leastI feel a little bit better getting to vent about it.1.8KViews3likes6CommentsJust a reminder on user opinion of Cox Data Caps
Just a reminder, since imposing data caps you have done little to address the complaints of customers (data caps too low, no option for unlimited that is reasonable, being so *** greedy it makes me cringe paying my bill every month). I still absolutely despise this company and its policies on capping data to 1TB for all levels of internet service, it's a joke in 2018 and you should be ashamed of yourselves. I seriously can't wait to for SpaceX satellite internet to become available, because the moment I have a viable alternative (let's see you stop SpaceX accessing utility poles you anti-competitive you-know-whats) I will be ditching your company so fast and never looking back. You're fortunate in that, for now, there is no viable alternative for service in my area... you better believe if I move, ISPs will be high on my list of considerations and if Cox is the only option, I'll just move somewhere else. The other part that is fortunate for Cox is that you STILL HAVE TIME to fix your colossal screw ups, before the competition comes in and kills you (it's going to happen, it's only a matter of time, look at your TV business). Fix this, and maybe the hemorrhage of customers will not be so bad when another company that doesn't want my arm, leg and first born to provide me with a decent service at a fair price arrives. In the past, SEVERAL years ago, Cox had data caps in my market (though not enforced at the time) of OVER 2TB... what happened? This was years ago, and someone at Cox deemed that to be a fair amount back then... I'll tell you what happened. Greed. Plain and simple, you found a way to increase your profits at the customers' expense, yet again. Your investments in infrastructure are a joke, you're never laying new fiber or upgrading existing lines... you barely fix what breaks, and wait for things to break and go down before fixing (if you ever even upgrade at all, I'm talking Nodes here). All you're OBVIOUSLY doing is overselling your capacity, and hoping that Data Caps will offset the amount of use that customer are getting, so you can keep piling on more and more customers while never improving or upgrading a *** thing on your end. It makes me sick, and I am going to continue to complain as long as there are data caps and no reasonable method to avoid them entirely. Eventually, if/when you do nothing, I willtake my business to the first competitoralong with plenty of others with me... I would almost rather it go that way, because in my current view of Cox, not much would make me happier than seeing you go out of business in the nastiest possible way. You know what they say about karma, and you'll have earned every bit of it. Doing business with Cox feels like being in an exploitive relationship, with no easy way out (no competition, and anti-competitive behavior from Cox to keep any and all competition far away, funny how there's always enough money for that project isn't it????). Do something about it. Sincerely, A once happy, butnow extremely unhappy customer.594Views2likes0CommentsInternet Issues - Consistent Lost Packets North Phoenix, Arizona
Continuing my previous post that was closed: https://forums.cox.com/forum_home/internet_forum/f/internet-forum/21292/internet-issues---consistent-lost-packets-north-phoenix-arizona The same issue is still occurring. I now have months of data collected to support packet loss beyond my home, as well as an in-home Cox technician that confirmed the infrastructure beyond my home was the issue and that he was seeing packet loss at my tap while excluding my entire internal network. The call date was September 8, 2018 and packet loss beyond my home should be notated on my account in accordance with that call. Here are screenshots from a packet testing utility I've been using while hard wired to my modem and through a router - the same packet loss issues persisted with or without the router in between. Packet loss also persisted through different hardware and operating systems. This packet loss issue persisted through three separate/new routers, two separate, brand new DOCSIS 3.0 modems, a Cox supplied Panoramic modem/router combo as well as the current Motorola MB8600 DOCSIS 3.1 modem. The modem provisioning can be found in my account history. In the photo below, you can see lost packets using UDP (in the Ping Plotter application window, not a normal ICMP request that would normally be dropped due to low priority) and a normal ping in the command prompt window both displaying dropped packets at the same time using two separate types of communication: Here is a screenshot from my modem indicating the uptime (less than three weeks, modem is brand new) and the several hundred thousand of corrections needed on bands 2-21: I called Motorola to confirm my understanding of the "correction" column, and was immediately informed that the number of corrections based on the modem's status page is indicative of an issue with Cox's infrastructure beyond my home. My RG6 line runs direct from the tap at the outside of my home to my modem - no splitters or other devices in use, and was replaced about two months ago by a Cox technician. The RG11 line that runs from the closest Cox ingress point to the outside of my home was replaced as well, about two months ago. There is a problem with the Cox infrastructure in my area of Phoenix. I've been dealing with this problem for months, and have provided Cox with dozens of data sets like the ones linked in this post - yet no tangible corrective measures beyond replacing the lines running to my home have been taken. I currently have a complaint in with the FCC and FTC, and will continue documenting and communicating this information out until the issue of packet loss is identified and corrected.33KViews2likes66Comments